she's available and we're going to join the children's movie let's take you straight to the ground in syria really close west coast tour until you can the us hotel close mosquito its ability to go clear of the city the colonel was which is used to retreat. when you wake up in the morning you care about the price of gold. well ron paul and ben bernanke you certainly do and they're duking it out over whether gold is money so long makers use this golden opportunity to change the course of economic policy. and rolling with the popular crowd in vegas as libertarians gather for freedom fast so who are the actually part of the libertarian entourage and who is simply on the fringe. and a story you won't see on mainstream news a silent war complete with a secret cia spy role talk with the man shining

a light on the shadow of war in somalia. it's thursday july fourteenth four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for is out there watching our t.v. . well let's start with the economy today where it seems to be we turn washington what everyone is talking about the economy jobs the lack of jobs on everyone's mind and so it seems to the deficit and how to shrink it in just a few minutes president obama and vice president biden will be meeting with lawmakers to talk about just that and the latest round of talks on coming to an agreement on raising the debt ceiling president obama will be meeting with some of the highest ranking lawmakers after what was apparently a pretty heated meeting yesterday in which obama reportedly stormed out one person who won't be in today's meeting but does want obama's job as texas congressman ron

paul he is out with his first official campaign ad which he gives his answer to the great debate over debt. for regular. unemployed. we know we're. like well our party people in the states a bit but they choose a compromise. one candidate has always been true ron paul cut spending well into the budget no good. no deals ron paul has said no repeatedly to the question of raising the debt ceiling he and many others have raised the question is this necessary so i'm even asking is this all simply a scare tactic and to making some significant changes into the way this government spends its money also talk more about that i've got l. randall ray in annandale new york he is a professor of economics at the university of missouri and kansas city. well let's

talk about this i know that you argue that in fact this notion of a shock doctrine you wrote that president obama has joined forces with republicans who want to use the debt limit to remove the last vestiges of f.d.r.'s new deal the last of the rooseveltian inspired programs social security medicare and medicaid and you say it's up to obama to kill those so talk about this i mean are we in the midst of a crisis that as everyone says we are. well we're in a credit created crisis but it's a political crisis not an economic crisis. we're sorry and government does not raise the solvency constraint if it does do it will be a political decision that's not going to be something that is forced by markets so you think that this is perhaps just an excuse by you know the forces out there to try to get rid of some of these new deal social security medicare medicare. yeah

unfortunately i think the democrats helped to create this crisis and as i say only a democratic president really can kill you and your programs president clinton was the one who destroyed the regulation of financial sector that was put in place in the aftermath. thirty's great depression that it rejected the economy and prevented another financial crash on the scale of the one nine hundred twenty nine crash up until the current crisis we had deregulated be supervised by situations basically we let the people back in one thousand twenty nine that caused the crisis so now it's up to obama to get rid of the questions of the new deal which are the social safety net that is protecting the population i want to talk more about i hear the exchange that took place yesterday between texas congressman ron paul and

fed chairman ben bernanke he over the actions both congress and the fed have taken to deal with some of these problems that we've seen over the last three years i want to show you a little bit of that exchange and what seems to be two very different interpretations of what's going on ok the five point one trillion dollars didn't go to the consumers it went to buy bad assets only not banks and. big companies and lo and behold the consumer in the end up getting this they lost their job they lost their houses and they're still in trouble you're mistaken in saying that for the reserve to spend any money. you say five trillion we have lent money we have purchased securities that's not buying dissipating you know the money that we've gotten all the money back we're making then went on to say that the fed has in fact been a profit center a money maker for the u.s. government and your thoughts on this notion is the fed actually you know

a profit center. but actually the number is probably closer to twenty nine trillion dollars if we count the total lending guaranteeing and buying of talks of waste assets undertaken by the fed and treasury twenty nine trillion dollars. i think bernanke is saying that a little bit fast and loose the fed still has a lot of toxic waste on its balance sheet probably it is valuing that it's something that will never be realized so i think that probably is going to take a loss on some of the ways that approach to this possibly on some of the loans that it is may so i actually agree with that could be. i don't think we should have done it and the criticism that not much has trickled down to main street is obvious i think a lot of people i would agree with that people who are out of work or lost their homes let's get another interpretation of the role of the federal reserve this one

coming from russian prime minister vladimir. we slow fortunately or unfortunately we do not print reserve currencies but look at what they are doing acting like hooligans switching on the printing press tossing money around the whole world filling their primary needs they say monopolies but this statement concerns only someone else's monopoly well there's nothing bad about them monopoly monopoly for printing money and then making the most of it but we cannot afford it we cannot shift all our expenses to budget deficit in there of course talking about quantitative easing easing and putting this money back just printing more and calling the fed a whole again what do you think about that. well i think this is overstated but the money that. is lending and spending to buy toxic waste is not getting out there into the economy or into the rest of the world if you were actually

getting out into the economy we would not still be in a recession we wouldn't have an unemployment rate above nine percent the fact is that the money that is being created by the it is called bank reserves it's all locked up in the reserves at the banks which actually are holding at they don't get out into the economy it would only be if somehow it's actions that encourage banks to start lending again and america tumours to start spending again it dollars would be getting out into the u.s. and world economies they are not so you say you think all this money that's being printed isn't even actually going out there back into the economy you know using the printing metaphor i think is very misleading as bernie he said these are just keystrokes all the fed is doing with it by toxic waste from a bank all it does it credit the banks which is a reserve that. and. that is the present bill it takes the toxic

waste as if that's that no money in the banking system all right all around the right professor of economics at the university of missouri kansas city. so right now in las vegas a lot of people who share many of these ideals they're the ideals that we've seen from congressman ron paul they're gathering for this year's freedom fast and even identify politically as libertarians but what does that actually mean ron paul in bodies many libertarian ideals but is running for president as a republican many members of the tea party aligned themselves with libertarians it's a movement that's gaining popularity you can certainly see that and that's why we want to dig a little deeper into what it all means more and more libertarianism is being touted in the mainstream media but what are they getting right and what are they getting wrong well one of mercer is a libertarian columnist for world net daily dot com and also author of this book

into the cannibals part lessons for america from post apartheid south africa she's in seattle right now and discusses some of these ideas in a column she calls libertarianism. so i guess a lot of let's start by talking about what you see is the foundation of libertarianism and also who you see as these libertarian lights christine hi thanks for having me on of course my heroes in the political arena are ron paul with rand paul and financier peter schiff great people all. my column libertarian elsom right was life was actually addressing. a segment of the libertarian movement that is being touted as the only brand of the only strand in fox business news and in particular to their cultural perspective and i was addressing in particular the segment i think it was

on stossel where. it took about an hour to expound on the proposition that. lady gaga glee m.t.v. dennis rodman madonna would reconsider sensual elements of american freedoms which of course classical liberal start myself would think is. rather well that's the libertine of faction of the movement and it's it's human within a larger category of liturgy but i think you would agree a lot of that that you know some of these ideals are really starting to catch on to become very popular i've covered a lot of tea party rallies here in washington and a lot of the people i speak to identify as libertarians and so i guess it painted a picture here of what you think it's sort of on the fringe people who don't maybe understand what the foundation of the movement actually is. i think it goes back to

the founding fathers and i like to call myself a classical loop program rather than a libertarian because that is of is often identified with the libertarianism like that i do address in my column classical liberalism of the nineteenth century certainly insistence is the freedom of the individual to do as he pleases which includes all those libertine facets of. the things extolled on that particular show counterculture issues but the main issues the authentic libertarian will emphasize is the rights to life liberty and property and i would put property above all in fact that doesn't bother you a lot of that you know people are sort of latching on to this without actual understanding of some of the original meanings. i think consciousness there is

a look i don't want to sound like a bitter person who has been writing. oldest libertarian column for over a decade and i'm certainly. seldom invited to these forums. i penned a an op ed a position paper for. ron paul during the two thousand and eight campaign and that had with the position on israel was very controversial among libertarians in wrestling with that particular issue for over a decade and writing about israel near conservatism and israel living section in a libertarian movement however at liberty says to see that there are conscious you just by way of example quite a few newcomers who are expatiating about israel i'm not sure what position they are in particular is. against iran it hurts hans had

problems with mainstream and was ousted and i doubt very much if you would have been published and dances to various phones these days but what bothers me move is the fact that in the american. american philosopher kings of history wrong on so many issues and they get sued. come on stage again and powerful on cause and. i don't want to name names and c n n. but see stephen move over to boy and spoke about bush's ownership society when i was when i was typing up a storm against. changes bush's wars in two thousand and two and. warning about heart inflation because of bush's ownership society policies. mr moore of the wall street journal touted as a libertarian is somewhat disturbing other individuals of that freedom face trial

juan williams a very nice gentleman certainly not a libertarian distinctiveness leading a. the n.s.a. n.b.c. commentators this progressive school choice but that's not libertarianism. like understand how to really a lot of interesting ideas it seems almost that that those in charge of freedom pass want to sort of bring it into the morning stream but certainly when you create your your take on as one of mercer after an apparent columnist for world net daily dot com. well new evidence out about the expanding role of the cia and of intensified counter in tech counterterrorism efforts in somalia this is not simply a case of more agents on the ground there but an increase of drone attacks of targeted strikes and most significantly of secret of a secret prison run by the cia just down in the nation magazine a new investigative report details how the cia trained somali intelligence agents

and operatives and plans missions directed at members of the islamic militant group al shabaab believed to have close ties to al qaeda and this is important because the article is called the cia's secret sites in somalia and it was written by a national security correspondent jeremy scahill of course also wrote the bestselling book blackwater the rise of the world's most powerful mercenary army he's in our new york studios and joins us with a very inside look after spending ten days on the ground in somalia hey there jeremy i guess i want to start by asking you about this secret prison what does it look like and more importantly what's going on inside. right well officially the prison is run by the somali national security agency but in a way it's sort of a distinction without a difference because the cia is paying the salaries directly of somali intelligence agents including those that work at this prison the prison is inside the compound

of what's called villa somalia which is the green zone of sorts where the u.s. backed somali government has its headquarters in mogadishu and it's housed in the basement of the national security agency where there are also some cia operatives base and inside this dungeon prison there are no windows there's no sunlight there's a bed bug infestation according to prisoners who've been there mosquitoes all over the place the air is moist thick and disgusting some prisoners are said to be losing their minds there are also reports from prisoners that there were very young boys inside of the prison some people have been held for eighteen months without charge without access to lawyers without access to the red cross in fact the red cross told me that they were not aware of the prison and that they have never been given access to it and among those being held in prison are people that were actually kidnapped snatched from neighboring kenya by kenyan intelligence officials and taken rendered by aircraft to this president mogadishu my understanding also

any u.s. official that i interviewed confirm this is that at least one prisoner there was taken based on u.s. intelligence provided to the kenyan forces and then rendered to somalia where he has been interrogated by u.s. interrogators the americans say that they don't directly interrogate the prisoners outside of the presence of somali agents and they prefer to call it be brief thing instead of interrogation but that's not what the somalis who work with the cia told me they said the cia directly interrogates prisoners whenever it wants i think it's so interesting jeremy that you sort of make the think of how there isn't actually a distinction in the u.s. is paying the three people and their presence there. they're using the intelligence to lead to this was to me very shocking and it's not just another cia mission this is the u.s. being involved in some way of snatching people off the streets as you said of having them interrogated in a place considered to have you know the worst humanitarian disaster in the world as

you also said there's no red cross there's no journalists other than when you were there and no accountability i guess i'm wondering why i didn't see you talking about this on every channel today i were very happy to have you here but do you think people realize the significance of this. well i know for a fact that journalists from sec that journalists from several major american news outlets were aware of these facilities in mogadishu and it's for those now it works to answer why they've never reported on it despite the fact that it's a very very serious issue that should be investigated by congress and the red cross and in fact the obama administration itself but i you know i can't answer questions for other media outlets but what i would say is that a.b.c. news in particular ran a story on their website which is a huge media outlet in the united states ran a story on their website that completely mischaracterize my story and allowed the cia to to shoot down straw man arguments that i hadn't made by asking them to

respond to things that i didn't report c.n.n. and a.b.c. have allowed their facilities their media outlets to be used as conveyer belts for the spin of the cia and that's the job of the cia and they do it well but the job of major media outlets should not be to be a conveyor belt for the propaganda of u.s. intelligence agencies so i would leave those those questions for other media outlets as to why they're not reporting on this very serious life and death issue that has to do very much with the rule of law in this country and whether or not there's been any change when it comes to respect of international human rights laws and standards and what were the u.s. constitution that's really interesting i guess to me and anything that you want to clear up here that you feel like was mischaracterized about your story. i'll give you that opportunity. well i mean look what i did but what happened is that. some hack sitting in the pentagon bureau of a.b.c.

news needs to justify his salary and he either didn't read my article or just was so easy to spin that it came natural to him one day when he was approached by a us official said that i had reported that the u.s. was running a counterterrorism detention facility in somalia what i had reported is exactly what i said and that is that the u.s. is paying the salaries of the somali agents that it is officially run by the somalis but that u.s. agents are able to openly interrogate them they've a.b.c. that made the focus of the story we don't have any black sites we're not running a black site inside of somalia and implied to my story needed to be undermined because it wasn't true the fact of the matter is that the obama administration announced in january of two thousand and nine the president himself that he was going to be shutting down these black sites leon panetta the director of cia said in april of two thousand and nine that he was decommissioning the black sites and what i am covered there is that the u.s. is using semantics to get around the fact that

a black site is being utilized by the cia whether they officially own the lease of the building is irrelevant they're making use of that facility so by not reporting the actual facts of what we reported which no u.s. official would dispute can dispute because they're true a.b.c. was a willing participant in a cia spin operation and let's talk about you mentioned you know the obama administration and some of the ideas that they've touted i know that one of you know candidate obama's biggest arguments with was talking about overturning some of these bush era policies and you know i guess i thought during these last couple years i was going to see some of these prisons shut down when in fact we're seeing new ones opening up a little bit about back. well you know the obama administration created this clause i don't remember the exact phrase but they said that there was some something like special considerations that would allow them to continue all of those policies that they claim to be against on the campaign trail and so they're

sort of using a loophole in their own rhetoric to justify it behind the scenes and you know what i think is of primary should be a primary concern to two americans that are concerned about rule of law is that as the u.s. expands its military operations and its covert operations in somalia and elsewhere in east africa as well as in yemen the administration should be required to define for the american people exactly what laws are governing these operations for instance there was a somali man who was transferred in early july to new york who had been snatched off of a ship in the gulf of aden and taken for two months to a u.s. naval ship held incommunicado without charge with no access to lawyers now he's being charged in a federal court when the center for constitutional rights asked the obama administration what legal justification they had to hold him in that manner the administration didn't have an answer for it so what we're seeing is president obama who himself is a constitutional law expert seeming to raise serious constitutional challenges with

his own policies as commander in chief and as president that totally true and very interesting to me i guess i got to ask you this though a lot of these that much more targeted missions they seem to be sort of the new era of this so-called war on terror and many see the osama bin laden targeted killing as a successful one as something that you know they want to see more of so i want to get your response to those who say this is exactly what the u.s. government should be doing you know gathering intelligence carrying out missions aimed at terrorists no matter where in the world they are. right well i mean the bin laden hit is is going to be the stuff of lore and hollywood films and there's going to be the can't kill bin laden movie and disney trademark literally trademark the term seal team six and that's what everyone's going to know about us targeted killing in the joint special operations command unless they actually are paying attention what they don't know is that the same force that killed bin laden just

a year earlier killed two pregnant women and an afghan police official in a botched raid that was based on bad intelligence turning that family against the united states that there have been scores of night raids conducted by these forces in afghanistan in pakistan in yemen in somalia where innocent people have been killed or when someone that they meant to kill was killed but scores of innocent people were killed along with them so if we're going to get into the business of making assassinations our norm that's really what these are assassinations and we need to be ready for the blowback because we're creating a whole new generation of enemies that wouldn't normally have been our enemies because we've killed people in their family especially those who have done no wrong and were the victims of bad intelligence so right it's a very dangerous game and it's become the obama administration's policy john brennan announced a few weeks ago no more big occupations it we're all in the business of surgical strikes which is a code word for assassinations all right jeremy scahill author and investigative journalist if you haven't read his article in the nation magazine definitely check

it out. turning now what is turning out to be an avalanche of a scandal and of course started with the media mogul rupert murdoch's british tabloid news of the world and charges it hacked into the accounts of murder victims but it's now clear this is rapidly expanding the f.b.i. has just opened an investigation into allegations rupert murdoch's news corp sought to hack into the phones of the victims of september eleventh terrorist attacks this is major news for a man many view as the king of an empire and it also begs a closer look into the tabloid industry in great britain some pundits here have compared the news of the world to you know t m z here in america british tabloid that actually are far more significant and powerful in many cases they are kingmakers if you're running for office and the tabloids like you could be your ticket to victory these habits also have a huge circulation so if this empire collapses there could be some massive repercussions artie's lore and it takes

a deeper look into the rise and fall of news of the world. rupert murdoch's push to expand in british media has come to a halt public and political rage overthrown hacking a sports news corp to drop its bid to buy satellite broadcaster b. sky b. but some say he's already killed the british press and they were saying it has fought back its nine hundred eighty one that's when he went on a media spending spree and bought amongst others the world renowned times newspaper news international has been playing a toxic part of our public life for so long but it worked under his ownership circulation just kept on rising in a market that killed authors and sky t.v. a loss making and obscure satellite network rocketed to become the biggest player in the u.k.'s pay t.v. market i do admire rupert murdoch because he's a risk taker when he bought the times and sunday times of london the newspaper

business absolutely in peril in the u.k. mostly because of the unions and because of some other economic factors he turned that around who basically there are people who will say that he saved the newspaper industry in london because of the whopping revolution in one thousand nine hundred six but now it's clear that success came with a heavy price tag morality murdoch's journalist kept ratings high high violating and exploiting the vulnerable they hacked the private voice mails of families of dead soldiers and murdered children essentially we've seen criminality and invasion of privacy on a staggering into scale not even the rich and powerful could escape then chancellor gordon brown's baby was splashed over the front page of the sun his illness a sick headline royal family phones were hacked the scandal even goes right to the heart of the police force senior police officers were bribed by journalists for tip

offs on sensitive investigations private lives were made public. now we've got here is that. somehow going to gordon brown's private life you have to search you have to wonder what else is in and of course it's not really it's not just. what we call blanket these are people ploy to help train information from what should be private sources like medical records tax records it's taken thirty years for the worst fears about the british press to come true but come true they have murdoch may own successful newspapers in an ailing market their papers which have lost their greatest asset the public's trust the u.k. has more c.c.t.v. cameras per person than anywhere else in the world i've counted just in this small car park so preston's always know big brother is watching but the question now is what's.